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Re: [REFERENCE MOD] Incyclopedia {Volume 1 & 2.1 Release}
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:29 am
by Tracker
It had a error twice decompressing it. Can you post a uncompressed version?
Re: [REFERENCE MOD] Incyclopedia {Volume 1 & 2.1 Release}
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:37 pm
by Ponzu
are you crazy =.= its gona be 900 something mB
Re: [REFERENCE MOD] Incyclopedia {Volume 1 & 2.1 Release}
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:15 pm
by G[v]N
No idiot, compressing it doesn't reduce the filesize by half. It's 593MB or so. =_=
Re: [REFERENCE MOD] Incyclopedia {Volume 1 & 2.1 Release}
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:42 am
by Tracker
And even if it was 900 mb i could deal with a long download- its better than nothing
Re: [REFERENCE MOD] Incyclopedia {Volume 1 & 2.1 Release}
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:59 am
by Zodiark
i cant download the CE volume
Re: [REFERENCE MOD] Incyclopedia {Volume 1 & 2.1 Release}
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:52 pm
by Ponzu
lol you are the idiot
just now i tried compress my 100MB mod and it became 49MB
and if you compress normal bloodgulch it would be 5.4MB even know its 13.8MB before compress.
ow i've also compressed 86MB map and it became 38MB
don't say anything if you have no actual prove lol
ow here is the prove
" I figure over 10k tags in a 900-meg file should keep you busy until " by sparky
Re: [REFERENCE MOD] Incyclopedia {Volume 1 & 2.1 Release}
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:50 am
by Altimit01
ZIP file compression is not linear. Lossless compression algorithms always have a minimum size they can compress to for any given input due to the nature of data itself. Try zipping a zip file for instance.
Re: [REFERENCE MOD] Incyclopedia {Volume 1 & 2.1 Release}
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:00 am
by Amy
huh? You talk funny lol. "the quantum mechanical particles with the omega 3 virus has a x-t4 algorithm that makes zip files unzip-able.
Your definitely a genius. Can you make me a new computer that is ultra fast plz. Oh yeah and include a 1000 tera Byte Hardrive too. make it resemble the UI of a mac. Thnx in advanced.
Re: [REFERENCE MOD] Incyclopedia {Volume 1 & 2.1 Release}
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:17 pm
by Sparky
So I basically tried to upload it, then gave up 3 times. I'll upload it after I do a quick fix on HDM so that the wiki and mail system work again. THEN I'll start uploading the file - and yes, it's almost a gig in size, copressed down to around 500 MB, an approximate 2:1 ratio.
Sorry about all the frustration. Let's see... it's Sunday. HDM should be up by Monday morning. INCY volume 2.1 should be up by Tuesday morning. How's that?
Re: [REFERENCE MOD] Incyclopedia {Volume 1 & 2.1 Release}
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:23 pm
by Amy
Good Boy.
Re: [REFERENCE MOD] Incyclopedia {Volume 1 & 2.1 Release}
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:31 pm
by G[v]N
Amy wrote:Good Boy.
Don't. Call. Spark. A. Boy.
Ever.
o_O
Gravy is © Fuel nicknames, outcorporated.
EDIT:
Spark, stop typing walls of text. You're making me embarrass myself. <_>
Now watch this. I will restore my awesomeness with bizarre arguments I pull out of my ass (note: I'm typing this in the toilet, just because I like to)
G[v]N wrote:No idiot, compressing it doesn't reduce the filesize by half. It's 593MB or so. =_=
Okay, misconception. I missed that part:
Sparky wrote:900-meg file
But I saw this part:
Sparky wrote:~
Volume 2.1: Halo CE | 592.7 MB
{ bitm eqip flag lsnd scen sky snd! weap vehi } (10,560 tags as of August 26, 2009)
And when attempts at downloading proved the filesize was 490+MB, I assumed 593MB as the uncompressed size.
Moving on, compressing does not reduce filesize by half:
SL-Baloer wrote:just now i tried compress my 100MB mod and it became 49MB
and if you compress normal bloodgulch it would be 5.4MB even know its 13.8MB before compress.
ow i've also compressed 86MB map and it became 38MB
don't say anything if you have no actual prove lol
100 divided by 49: 2.04081633
Why is my Blood Gulch 13.9MB? Anyway..
13.8 divided by 5.4: 2.555555556
And lastly:
593 multiplied by 2: 1186
And as a matter of fact, compressing various mods has repeatedly proved that compressing does not reduce the filesize by..exactly half. For the smaller ones (around 40MB?) yes, around half, but bigger sizes less. Somewhat.
Fuel wrote:O_O
And more seriously:
Altimit01 wrote:ZIP file compression is not linear. Lossless compression algorithms always have a minimum size they can compress to for any given input due to the nature of data itself. Try zipping a zip file for instance.
I now proclaim a new form of internet language: leeterspeak.
But whatever, right?
Re: [REFERENCE MOD] Incyclopedia {Volume 1 & 2.1 Release}
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:59 am
by Ponzu
why not try divide map by the tags in it. so like
1 map for weap tag and another for bipd and yet another for vehi and stuff
Re: [REFERENCE MOD] Incyclopedia {Volume 1 & 2.1 Release}
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:07 am
by Sparky
Thanks for the idea. That already ran through my mind. The problem would be that tags reference each other, so for example, vehicles also have weapons, and actv have a whole host of associated tags. You can see how long it takes to recursively extract an actv or bipd, because they also have associated sounds. There would be some overlapping, which wouldn't be ideal when you're trying to create a comprehensive index of all the known released tags.
EDIT: The CE version is segregated by tag type, but I divided it this way so that there will only be two versions of the CE release: 2.1 and 2.2. It's only a temporary situation, anyway, since the INCY will eventually be accessible online, and there won't be any duplicates... there are even duplicates in 2.1, but they're kindof easy to spot. I tried to be as inclusive as possible, and several authors had redundant folders, like:
scenery\base1\base.scenery
and
scenery\base1\base1\base.scenery
I included both of these tags, for example. (This is a facsimile/fake example.)
Re: [REFERENCE MOD] Incyclopedia {Volume 1 & 2.1 Release}
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:36 am
by Sparky
Alright, so here's the deal:
I'm splitting this huge file into 12 parts using split & concat. I need someone with a fast internet connection to concat the files and upload the large 592 MB file to HDM, please. Please volunteer, so we don't have multiple people doing this.
Everyone else can just DL the parts or wait for this volunteer to upload the concatenated .zip file.
If you are the volunteer, I ask that you name the wiki file Incyclopedia 2-1. One of us will then add that link to the Incyclopedia entry on the Tools page.
Thanks in advance. Links to split files forthcoming.
Re: [REFERENCE MOD] Incyclopedia {help requested}
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:45 am
by Sparky