[Tut] How to Convert CE Tags to Demo/Importing the Tags

[Fonzeh]

You guys didn't know that? Lol, nice job on the tut, C#MT version is somewhat easier though,(when I explain it) although I guess some people say the app doens't work for them, o well.

I Understand you D3pp but not everyone can use C#MT This is a good tut for people who needs simple conversion but Doesn't Have C#MT.

Brimstone, Note that most of the Maps thjat dont work Are protected. And u can play Any map on PPC it will just lag like hell. I learned that in many ways lol.

[G[v]N]

Oh wait..I don't have CE.
T_T

[Mota-Lev]

You don't need ce. Download ce maps then convert them from the net. No ce required

[Altimit01]

I recommend converting ui.map, b30.map and bloodgulch.map to have full version headers. Regardless of find ones or find all it should work. Find all will only correct issues relating to sounds and bitmaps that are not 1's (read the harbinger release post to understand what I'm talking about). However, there's a very good chance that some of the tags needed to be replaced simply do not exist in Halo demo. If after the conversion process, the file missed1s.txt has any entries then the conversion failed due to missing tags. (Meaning that if miraculously the map only contains 1's available in Hdemo, it might be playable after being demo hacked to demo. No promises) However, it is apparently still readable by HHK which is the only thing that matters for this tutorial. I strongly recommend only using tags that have in the map download description a notice stating that the tags are free to use by anyone.

As for any map on PPC, that's not entirely accurate. One of my testers running PPC and both 1.5 and 2.0.2 (UB) versions of Halo full was unable to even start something like Solo Danger Canyon M. Halo crashed.

[Fonzeh]

hmm Well, As far as I know 2.0.2 is for Intel, And is the Map protect Alt? If not then a Possible mess up in halo or human error. But if it is indeed how it goes then scratch my last post, Soz for the wrong Info guys

[Altimit01]

2.0.2 is the UB with updates, but it doesn't mean intel. UB means just what it stands for: universal binary. A program that runs equally well on both chips. (So the PPC can still use it while not decreasing performance on intels by having to run the programs through rosetta.) And it's not human error, I've transferred a playable converted map from my computer to my tester and it didn't work. PPC for some reason can't handle certain aspects in maps that are only present in a handful of CE maps. No one is quite sure what the reason is but there are some guesses.

[Fonzeh]

Lol I will not Argue with a god. That Does make Since. But cant we find a way to Convert the Maps SO they work on PPC?

[x1MCMAXx]

Do I smell a sticky?

Has anyone actually tried the method he posted? Not just saying it looks correct or should work. Last time I stickied a tutorial, a few weeks after that everyone said it didn't work when the initial response was the tutorial worked.

Really? Huh. I was not aware that some peoples tuts didn't work...

How now brown cow.

[lord lagger]

how do you get Harbinger anyway..
i cant seem to find a download on any modding site..
google didnt even help..

[Altimit01]

forums.halomods.com->halo pc->utilities
halopc.net->forums (has it's own section)
this post should help some as well

[G[v]N]

Altimit's Filefront has Harbinger..

[LAPTOPER]

Ok,

This might sound dumb, but, I followed everything up till Phase 5. All the other directions were fine and I was able to do it. I used a scorpion from a CE map to import in my map. I was not able to do anything with naming the driver seat and everything. I compared the scorpion I added and the one that was already there and they were exactly the same: Same seats and everything, and seat 1 was already specified as driver so I left it the same. Now is Phase 6, how do you swap things? I selected a scenery item, and then there was a little box thing in the bottom right hand corner and then I selected one of the scorpion "files". When I converted the map back to demo and played it, it crashed. Damn, I thought, but I knew that I was doing something wrong. Can anyony specify more how and what to do in
Phases 5 -6. Thanks! And thanks Fonzie for making the tutorial.

Altimit's Filefront has Harbinger..

[Fonzeh]

You HAVE to Swap it with Scenery, I would suggest the Dick Rock... Excuse my language but i didnt know what to call it. If you swap it in and it still doesnt work, Make sure you followed all the steps correctly. If that all checks out then it is possible that the map is protected. Thus making the import useless. Also u can swap things in the dependancy swapper. Go to scnr tag. Then Find rocks. Medium_Rock... etc. God luck and I hope i was able to help you!

[LAPTOPER]

Thanks fonzie for getting back so soon!

Hey, this is going to sound stupid, but how do you swap? Go "Go to scnr tag. Then Find rocks. Medium_Rock" once you select the scnr tag, what do you do? Also, say I was trying to import the mongoose, but it isnt in the original bloodgulch? What do you do then?


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[Kayar]

Dependency swapper in eschaton.

Then go to "rock_A50_large" (there is no such thing as "Medium_rock")

Then type in the text box below "vehi"

Then choose the vehicle from the drop down menu.

However, I don't advise using the scenery method, as it's glitchy and messed up. Thing is, there are few other working ways, and the specifics on all are vague.