Hi can you please tell me how to duplicate tags?

[MadModder21]

I would really like to know how to duplicate a tag such as a warthog.vehicle and all of it's components/shaders/bitmaps. Can someone please give me a tutorial on how to do that? Please?

Thanks.

I know I am a newbie to this kind of stuff so go easy on me please.

[Slapzy]

Recursively export the tag, then re-import it with a variant name.
Or if you're just looking to have more vehicles in the map, you can duplicate an existing reference I believe.

[MadModder21]

Can you please give a more in-depth tutorial please, I don't really know how to do what you were saying. Also is it possible that altimit01 will make escahton 0.7.4 have a duplicate tag feature and then you can re-name the tag? I know you have to use HHK to do what you are saying, but how?

[TaxiService]

hello and welcome to mac gaming mods enrichment center!

>_> ...yeah. uhm.. now what? tag duplicating! okay.


the fastest, easiest, (and yet less organized) way is using the last version of Eschaton. which i hope you have already. <.<

blargh. let's say we want to duplicate the warthog, and give it a new soso with a different bitmap:
- open a standard bloodgulch in eschaton.
- goto Maps (Read/Write only) > vehi: Vehicle > and select vehicles\warthog\mp_warthog.
- in the Map menu click Recursively Extract Tag. (or just hit cmd-shift-E)

- now that we extracted the tag, select bloodgulch.map and hit the Expand Map button.
- this time the expanded map will be found in Maps. select it.
- as you can see there's the warthog tag we just extracted there.

what we're going to do now is selecting just a few tags to import again in the map. so:
- check the following maps boxes: vehi: vehicles\warthog\mp_warthog, mod2: vehicles\warthog\warthog, soso: vehicles\warthog\shaders\warthog hull and bitm: vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\warthog.
- hit the Import Tags button and then the Rebuild Map button.

~ NOW, we duplicated the tags. the following part is about creating the second vehicle.

- yay. now close the eschaton window and open another. in the new window, open the rebuilt map.
- as you can see there is a new tag under vehicles. vehicles\warthog\mp_warthog+!

That is the vehi tag you duped.
- now, in Reference Swapper swap mod2 vehicles\warthog\warthog with vehicles\warthog\warthog+. (remember to hit the Swap button. <.< which i always forget.)
- double click it (it will carry you to that tag), and in its reference swapper, swap soso vehicles\warthog\shaders\warthog hull with vehicles\warthog\shaders\warthog hull+.
- double click it too, and in its reference swapper swap bitm vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\warthog with vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\warthog+.
- double click it too! now import this bitmap in it.

(use the Import button. you will require a backup of bitmaps.map later.)
- expand the map.
- under the Data Internalize tab, check bitm: vehicles\warthog\bitmaps\warthog+'s box. (it will ask you to select a file. select bitmaps.map)
- hit the Internalize button, then the Rebuild Map one.

okay then. @_@ the process is over. now dump the bitmaps.map file and replace it with a backup of the original, and you get this! o_o


Notes: the purple steps MAY not be necessary.
if the swaps are already made, then there is no need to do them again. ¬.¬

i called it "less organized" because you cannot rename tags. to do that, you'd need to do another process with HHK. (basically: recursively exporting a tag, and in the finder rename it as you want.)


blawrgh. o_o

[MadModder21]

Hey Taxi, that was a great easy-to-follow tutorial! Thanks so much, It also worked! Thanks!

I really needed that for a mod I am making and I have read the forums and the forum rules and everything, and now know what a newbie mod is, so I can avoid the making newbie mods. Thanks again.

-MadModder

[Hostbot]

Hey Taxi, that was a great easy-to-follow tutorial! Thanks so much, It also worked! Thanks!

I really needed that for a mod I am making and I have read the forums and the forum rules and everything, and now know what a newbie mod is, so I can avoid the making newbie mods. Thanks again.

-MadModder

I would go to taxi for help most of the time, in my opinion he is the most expierianced out of anybody on mgm.

[TaxiService]

LOL! thanks! but i'm not the most experienced at all! XD

LOL!!! what about Shadow! or draconic! or all the ancient members! i know nothing compared to them! XD it's like insulting them! o.o!

[Kiyoshi]

nah, just the only one willing to help new people. taught me everything i know when it comes to importing and the like

[MadModder21]

Well I have a question... how would I make it so I can duplicate a itmc slot in the scnr tag in eschaton. is it possible with a chunk cloner or something else besides CE, if thats the only way I will just make a map on that and add a ton of random different itmc with different weapons so there are more slots . That would work right the CE way? I just started learning, it is under Netgame equipment in sapien. I have only been making maps/using CE for a week and a half now.

[Sparky]

You can use chunk cloner to duplicate some scenery, then swap the scen with itmc. Or you can simply open SwordEdit and duplicate the itmc in the scenario. Remember to only save once per map editing session when using SwordEdit. The latest version is buggy like that - it'll corrupt the map if you save more than once per session.

[MadModder21]

yeah, small problem with that.. I have really bad mac computers ones a macbook intel, and ones a emac =\. So when I open up sword edit on either computer it lags like there is no tomorrow, so I can't use them on my computers. I do have a question though, if I use demohack on it first make it to full, then transfer the map file to my PC the one that has really good graphics, and then use sparkedit to modify it, and save it, will it still be playable on a mac or will it then be a pc trial map and or corrupted?

[Rofldonutburger]

Not really sure, it sometimes corrupts and sometimes it doesn't.

[Noodle]

Taxi, that is a beautiful warthog you just skinned. I am keeping that as my default bitmaps to compliment the h3 bitmaps I usually have. Lol.

[MadModder21]

Not really sure, it sometimes corrupts and sometimes it doesn't.

I think that it may only corrupt with doing certain things such as importing new tags into it. I think.

[Rofldonutburger]

Yeah, maybe rebuilding with HMT might be the problem... Or maybe sparkedit problems?