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Holding the Mouse

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:45 pm
by Sparky
According to the Razer Gaming Mouse Advisor web page describing three styles of holding the mouse, each style has its advantages and disadvantages.
The Palm Grip
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Advantages of the palm grip:
The palm grip is the default way many users use to hold a computer mouse, and is found to be more comfortable for a user not accustomed to manipulating the mouse by lifting it and making constant adjustments with the fingers and palm.
With the palm grip, the user will primarily move the mouse by exerting force with his forearm and wrist to “push” the mouse around the mousing surface. By using this method, the user is able to move the mouse at higher speeds, and achieve higher Inches Per Second (IPS) ratings by doing so. Some gamers fine-tune their movements by rotating and pivoting their wrists, but gross speed is still the primary advantage that palm grip users experience.
The palm grip is also considered one of the most comfortable grip styles for gaming where the gamer is able to continue playing for extended hours without experiencing fatigue.

Disadvantages of the palm grip:
As previously noted, palm grip users have a natural tendency to move the mouse with their forearm and wrist. However, in order to keep the point of contact with their palm and the back of the mouse intact, users will find it difficult to perform fine tuning with their fingers.
The number of articulation points to manipulate the mouse is also less than what the claw grip offers. This in turn means that palm grip users are unable to make as many precise movements as they can when using a claw grip.
The Claw Grip
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Advantages of the claw grip:
The claw grip is preferred by users who require quick, precise movements, while having the rear of the mouse stabilized by the sixth contact point in the pit of the hand when lifting the mouse off the mousing surface.
A claw grip user will manipulate the mouse primarily by “pulling” the mouse around the mousing surface as the user’s hand is positioned above the mouse, and fine-tuning can be made by making minor adjustments with the user’s fingertips by either slightly rotating the mouse like a dial or pushing the mouse in and out of the pit of the user’s hand.
A final point to note with regards to the claw grip is that the primary and secondary mouse buttons can be actuated faster than when actuated with the palm grip. The pressure exerted by the tips of the user’s fingers positioned in the claw grip can result in quicker button actuation than fingers positioned in a palm grip. This is because fingers positioned in the palm grip require the user to use more force to actuate the mouse button due to the increased surface area each finger has to press down on.

Disadvantages of the claw grip:
Because most users have a natural tendency to palm their mouse, using the claw grip does not feel as natural to certain users and a learning curve is required to adjust to the claw grip.
Additionally, since the user is moving the mouse with his fingertips, fatigue can set in faster if the user does not possess refined fine motor skills with their fingertips and wrist. Because of this, the user will experience fatigue sooner and fine motor control will deteriorate, quickly affecting the user’s ability to move his mouse accurately.
The Fingertip Grip
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Advantages of the fingertip grip:
The fingertip grip is similar to the claw grip, in the fact that users prefer quick, precise movements, but differs because the user wants increased agility.
A fingertip grip user will also “pull” the mouse along a mousing surface, but since the rear of the mouse no longer makes contact with the pit of the user’s hand, the user can make further adjustments and tweak the mouse with his fingertips when compared to the claw grip.
Also like the claw grip, the primary and secondary mouse buttons can be actuated faster with the fingertip grip when compared to the palm grip.

Disadvantages of the fingertip grip:
With the fingertip grip, users will experience the most amount of hand fatigue as there are now only five points of contact with the mouse, and the user will be required to use more effort in controlling the stability and precise movements of the mouse.
The fingertip grip also requires the highest learning curve for most users, as the exaggerated arched fingers and increased amount of control over the mouse needs to be practised.

I use something between a claw grip and a fingertip grip all the time with my small Logitech USB laser mouse. I'm planning to get a new mouse; however, I still think the fingertip grip would be the best grip style to use in games like Halo.

How do you grip your mouse?

Re: Holding the Mouse

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:51 pm
by Amy
Two fingers on a trackpad.

Re: Holding the Mouse

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:18 pm
by Mgalekgolo
pointer and middle on the L and R buttons. thumb on my side ball. other 2 fingers resting on the gel thing.

Re: Holding the Mouse

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:32 pm
by TaxiService
Me too, Sparky! I have a small logitech laser mouse (that i love) gripped with a sort of hybrid between claw and fingertip grips.

Re: Holding the Mouse

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:00 pm
by Sparky
I feel like I should shift my fingers to pointer - left button; middle - scrollwheel; ring - right button, on the game Prototype that uses three buttons for three different types of attacks: primary, secondary and special. The oddities of such trivial difficulties. \ :) /

This is what I use now:
Logitech V100: http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Optical- ... B000FQ76IS

This is what I just bought from Razer:
Razer Orochi: http://store.razerzone.com/store/razeru ... d.38816100 and on amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002JTWODG
Razer Kabuto mousepad: http://store.razerzone.com/store/razeru ... d.35210900 and on amazon http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Kabuto-Mobi ... gy_e_img_b

Re: Holding the Mouse

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:55 am
by Kiyoshi
Amy wrote:Two fingers on a trackpad.
This.


Come at me bro.

Re: Holding the Mouse

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:09 am
by nil
I use this. Gripping it is kind of not needed to explain. Also see this. Trackpads are too sucky to play with. I think I am *slightly* better with an actual mouse, but I don't like using them anyway. Also, see *.


*I'm better than all of you active MGMers at Halo.

Re: Holding the Mouse

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:18 pm
by Kayar
Kiyoshi wrote:
Amy wrote:Two fingers on a trackpad.
This.


Come at me bro.

Re: Holding the Mouse

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:34 pm
by Sugarlumps
Amy wrote:Two fingers on a trackpad.

Re: Holding the Mouse

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:40 pm
by Sparky
I used to have an iBook G4, and played Halo Demo on it using the trackpad quite a few times. I also used the mouse, though, and switched to it after a short time in order to make it easier on myself. That's the main reason I started playing Halo on the computer rather than on the Xbox. When I played it on the Xbox several years ago, I thought to myself, "I'd be so much more skilled at this game if I were using a keyboard and mouse and playing it on the computer." That's the main reason why I don't even bother getting a game pad or controller to play computer games. Perhaps only a joystick for flight simulators would be helpful. But can you imagine flying a banshee using a joystick? That's what they had on the Xbox controllers...

Re: Holding the Mouse

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:57 am
by Dirk Gently
probably fingertip?

I use a logitech VX revolution so my hand is further back on the mouse than most of those photos.

Re: Holding the Mouse

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:49 am
by {DKW}drk
i use palm grip. :D

Re: Holding the Mouse

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:43 pm
by Nuthead_
palm, mutherfuckers.

Re: Holding the Mouse

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:41 pm
by Sparky
I got the mouse, works really well :D

Re: Holding the Mouse

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:22 pm
by Chevytuner
i prefer to have my index and middle finger on top of the mouse, with my thumb and other middle finger gripping the sides
that way when crafting i can just BAMBAMBAM with my two fingers and craft most of the items really fast by just repeating the motion